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    Postby Kelewan » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:57 pm

    There have been tons of opinions on our President and his many wives and newest edition to the world. I've heard various rants, defences, racist remarks, and the rest and been bored to tears. All the blogs, editorials and comments seem to be racially divided. The Mail and Guardian has had the same problem over the past few days. But I checked my mail today and there it was: yet another JZ blog on Thought Leader. But this one is different, and sums up pretty rather most of my feelings, and in a far better fashion. If you follow the link, kindly notice the completely different tone of the comments posted. Unbelievable if you've read some of the others.

    My apologies, I've forgotten how the hell to post a url tidily. http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/janicewinter/2010/02/03/father-of-the-nation-in-that-case-the-personal-is-public-dad/

    Our president has just admitted to having fathered his 20th child — this time, not the child of any of his five wives, but of a friend’s daughter. No, not the friend’s daughter by whom he was accused of rape. Another friend’s daughter. This time he scored with the daughter of Soccer World Cup local organising committee chairperson Irvin Khoza, Sonono. Zuma didn’t share the news out of fatherly pride — he tried hiding it, then denying it and only this week finally owned up under pressure from the media. Perhaps ANC spokesperson Brian Mthembu’s defensive assertion to the media that “[t]here is nothing shameful when two adults have a relationship” should instead have been addressed to his boss.

    Julius Malema has — unusually — refrained from commenting. His explanation was, conveniently, a cultural one, which implied that all “Africans” should refrain from criticism: “We are Africans and sitting here all of us [sic], Zuma is our father so we are not qualified to talk about that.” Well, Julius, we only know of 20 children at this point, so technically he is not our father. But you do flag up an interesting dilemma in the ensuing public/private debate.

    On the one hand, the argument against the media’s criticism of the “love child” story is that Zuma occupies the official position of president and is therefore available to us in only a purely public capacity, and his personal affairs (in a very literal sense) are not open to public scrutiny. This is the ANC’s official line, with Mthembu arguing: “As the ANC, we have always made a distinction between people’s personal affairs and their public responsibilities. Insofar as we are concerned, the alleged relationship of the president and anyone should be treated as such.”

    On the other hand, the argument annulling our right to criticise is the one Julius makes: an essentialist African interpretation of its being culturally inappropriate to criticise an elder, which then moves the rationale from the realm of detached public officialdom to that of the private. Now, Julius, I’m not sure who you address in your assertion that “we are Africans”, but as my culture is included equally in the rainbow Constitution, I’ll generously assume you include me in your equation. In that case, your rationale is exactly what gives me the right to criticise Zuma. In my culture, respect is earned and while elders should be addressed politely, our fathers’ lives are indeed our concern and are open to our criticism, as they clearly impact on us. So if the rationale is a cultural one and based on the assumption that Zuma is our “father”, then the issue is open to public critique — as is the premise of the cultural argument itself, which opposition party Cope president Terror Lekota debunks: “His continued use of African custom as a smokescreen is also no longer acceptable. Polygamy is not promiscuity and his behaviour is not justifiable under any circumstances.”

    So is Zuma a president or a father figure? Is he public or personal? And what is he to the media? Well, Zuma invited the media to his recent wedding, which as media ethics professor Franz Kruger argues, makes his private life “sufficiently of public interest to warrant media attention … When he advertises his private life, when he uses a cultural (not personal) argument as the basis of his defence, then it becomes a public argument”.

    But beyond this, I would argue that the birth of his 20th child to a woman who is not any of his wives is a matter of public interest regardless of the basis of his defence. Responding to criticisms by numerous opposition parties and the media, the ANC said it did not see a correlation between Zuma’s personal relationships and the ANC’s policies on HIV/Aids. I find that quite bizarre. Just two months ago, on December 1 2009, Zuma gave a speech to mark World Aids Day, announcing plans to improve the treatment for HIV-positive people, and strongly emphasising that this “does not mean that we should be irresponsible in our sexual practices … It does not mean that people do not have to practise safer sex. It does not mean that people should not use condoms consistently and correctly during every sexual encounter”. He called for a new era of openness and a new era of taking responsibility, promising that “as government we are ready to play our role of leadership”.

    It is expected that given this declaration and his call for new openness in confronting taboo issues openly, we hold him to account on his promises and his practice. It is the nature of responsible journalism and an engaged citizenry and is fundamental to healthy democracy. As Constitutional law expert Professor Pierre de Vos said, the crux of the matter is not a moral judgement of Zuma’s actions (although I would argue that this itself would be entirely valid), but whether politicians made certain statements of principle and policy and their private behaviour did not measure up to those state policies and principles.

    In that case, the statement by the ANC quoted earlier also warrants interrogation — that “as the ANC, we have always made a distinction between people’s personal affairs and their public responsibilities” — as does Malema’s defence that “African culture” eschews the criticism of elders. What, then, of his derogatory comment about former minister of education Naledi Pandor’s “fake accent”? Or his labelling of SA Communist Party deputy general-secretary Jeremy Cronin as a “white messiah” — followed by the ANC Northern Cape’s provincial secretary Dikgang Stock threatening: “We humbly wish to warn these rented hooligans and dogs and their masters that we will defend the ANCYL leadership and ANC NEC with our lives, even if it makes kicking this unbecoming behaviour out of them we will do that”? Also, Umkhonto weSizwe Military Veterans’ Association’s branding of Helen Zille as “anti-African”and “racist” in response (ironically) to her comment that Zuma put his wives at risk of Aids as he had unprotected sex with an HIV-positive woman, and countering this criticism with unfounded and absurd accusations by chairman Kebby Maphatsoe that “she appointed half her sex boys into the Western Cape provincial cabinet to keep them close enough to satisfy her well-evolved wild whore libido”. Or, finally, deputy police minister Fikile Mbalula’s inclusion of Kader Asmal as among “those relegated to the rubbish bin of history” and rejecting his criticisms as “the rumblings [sic] of a raving lunatic”. These recent examples have all been personal attacks by ANC members on respected anti-apartheid activists of an older generation.

    In his diatribe against Asmal, Mbalula asserted: “It has never been part of our struggle or culture to seek liberation by the media, whom ironically Asmal calls upon to investigate the ‘dank, dark, dangerous areas of South African life.’ Our people have always understood their power to hold to account their political leadership and the power of the vote in keeping in check those that do not represent their aspirations. Asmal and his ilk, having realised this, choose to conveniently ignore the masses of our people and sound the clarion call to their darlings, the media establishment.” And now, just three months after this concerning verdict on the irrelevance of the media in holding power to account, Malema asks the media of Zuma’s current controversy: “What is political about this? You [journalists] must call me on political issues, not social issues.” I didn’t realise that social issues were not also political issues, or that the media’s mandate is restricted to political issues alone, and then only those with an upper-case “P”.


    And I'm going to confess: I wanted to hurl a bowl of Pronutro at the screen last night watching our President telling us to mind our own business, fuck what? Pardon me? No...I don't think so JZ. Your hypocrisy is becoming just a bit difficult to digest and ignore.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Llama Girl » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:35 am

    Kel I would have to agree with you.

    For someone that is leading our nation, he shows a remarkable disrespect to women.

    I am not even talking about his alleged rape case.

    The mere fact that he thinks nothing of taking on extra wives whenever he is bored, but above that his loyalty and respect for them falters (and comes crashing to the ground) each time he beds yet another woman.

    I just get angry. His tradition as a Zulu (which is his eternal excuse) does not preclude the right each of his CURRENT wives have to respect and honour. It seems his Zulu-ness precludes their rights.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Orange » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:56 am

    My biggest concern with this whole saga is the impact his actions have on his words. We all know JZ is an excellent orator, but words that are continuously opposed by actions are meaningless, and will be shown to be so. When you stand up at an international conference and say one thing, and then do the exact opposite, it shows you up for what you are, a liar.

    And as for Julius' assertion that it is not done to criticise our elders, well, that too is a two way street. If it's the younger generation's place to not criticise, then it's the older generations duty to lead a lifestyle that sets an appropriate example. And JZ, I'm afraid, falls remarkably short on this count.

    What is beyond doubt though, is that he is a serial womanizer, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. And that in any other self-respecting democracy, this behaviour would've been grounds for dismissal of the President.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Llama Girl » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:25 am

    Orange wrote:What is beyond doubt though, is that he is a serial womanizer, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. And that in any other self-respecting democracy, this behaviour would've been grounds for dismissal of the President.


    I think it speaks volumes about why our society is battling with crimes against women and children.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Sylvana » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:53 am

    Before reading this, I was thinking on the way home yesterday that Zuma's private sexual life can best be described as he is a sperm sprayer. He critisized the media saying that just because he had a child out of wedlock does not invalidate the right of that child to live. On this I agree, parents have a responsibilitiy to the children they have. However, does Zuma actually do anything for his children other than provide sperm? Is he going to provide child support for this one, will this child ever even meet its father personally?

    I just cant help but feel as though he cares absolutely nothing about his chilldren let alone the women he has sex with. We all know that Zuma is a buzy man. Running a country is no easy task. As a result when does he see his other 19 children, let alone number 20? Does he spend time with them? I doubt it. Even a jobless layabout would be hard pressed to find time for 20 children in his life. It just makes me believe that as the father he is severly lacking. Hence why I call him a sperm sprayer. Does he even have time for his wives I wonder? I know that zulu tradition does have an extremly mysogonistic basis, and women must take care of everything, not complain and leave the man to do his thing. However, is that really fair, especially to his wives and children, in this modern era? Sorry I know this isnt really realated to the specifics of this thread, but this is my feelings.

    Ok back on track. the only problem I have with this, is that it runs contrary to acting as a signifigant rolemodel for HIV prevention. If the woman in question wanted his child, then I dont actually have a problem. Perhaps we should be asking her?

    WARNING: the following is baseless speculation on my part, and my part alone.
    I was also wondering how many of these affairs he has (including wives actually), are not actually business deals? I have nothing really to base this on, but given the extreme mysogonistic nature of zulu culture, and that they still effectively sell thier women to men (yes folks thats what lebola means) it makes me wonder. Remember he "raped", one friends daughter, and now has had a child with another. It just gives me a feeling that there might be a favour behind this in a way. Of course, this is completely baseless seculation.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Cloudgazer » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:06 am

    Excellent article Kel.

    The ANC's hypocrisy is astounding.
    Unfortunately the masses seem to have a very short memory. How many of them even remember Zuma's speech about practicing safe sex?

    It's also well known that African leaders refrain from pissing in each other's pool, which is why they will not criticize JZ, just like they don't mad uncle Bob.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Sylar » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:06 am

    I agree with that article 100%.

    I think if you are a public figure then yes you are allowed to have some kind of private life, if you make a mistake then you should be allowed to tell everyone to back off and leave you alone

    BUT

    Zuma's constant string of lies, deception, hippocracy and general chauvinistic attitude I believe its in the best interests of the public that people know exactly what kind of person he is. The majority of the ANC's support base is Christian, what he does goes against everything they believe, they need to know that the ANC was determined to put this man in power despite knowing what he was like.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Llama Girl » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:23 am

    Excellent cartoon on front of Cape Times today.

    "I wonder if there's a chance of recalling a president with faulty brakes and an accelerator pedal that keeps getting stuck"

    well I wonder if we can snip off that damn accelerator pedal. It has accelerated our population too fast already.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Rietbok » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:57 am

    Father of the nation.... The way he's having children he might just be fathering his own nation. :rofl:
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Kelewan » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:12 pm

    Yay! Riet got it! I absolutely adored the title of the blog! And then Zapiro's cartoon. Dunno if I can link it here. ;)
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Llama Girl » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:38 pm

    WOuld love to see teh cartoon. Not in my papers today.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Kelewan » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:11 pm

    Are there some kind of rules about posting it here? Like copyright or something? Or if not, just the link to the one I'm talking about.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby metoo » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:13 pm

    Nope Kel. Feel free to post
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Kelewan » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:23 pm

    I'm trying to attach it. If it doesn't show, I'll try again!
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Orange » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:28 pm

    :rofl: :clap:

    Score 1 for Zapiro...
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Llama Girl » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:34 pm

    Oh I love that. Hysterical. Love it. Love it. Love it.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Rietbok » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:42 pm

    :rofl:
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Insider » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:32 pm

    :clap: LOL!

    Heard Zapiro on the radio - he said a monster shower head is back for dadda.
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Saint » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:43 pm

    Zapiro is a master :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

    Zuma and his children, however, interest me not in the slightest *snore*
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    Re: "Father of the nation?..."

    Postby Diva » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:06 pm

    Those little Zumababies are the best!
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