Cancer is a fungus?

[Sean]

If 40, 30, or even 20 years ago it was still possible to somehow convince people of the goodness of official oncology and of its results, today, after results that are as continuous as they are inane, although trumpeted regularly by the media, nobody accepts being seduced by words, about hypotheses and promises that are undelivered and undeliverable, any longer. The painful awareness, which almost everyone has experienced, of the miserable end of this or that relative, friend, or acquaintance, is associated with these failures.
We must surrender to the evidence that contemporary oncology is incapable of giving us the answers and the necessary to those who are cancer patients and that therefore it is our moral and ethical obligation to try to find the correct solution for the gravest and most painful disease of our time.


http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/

[6000]

Disgusting. The sad thing is that someone (usually someone desperate) will actually believe this stuff, spend money and die.

[Sean]

spend money?

go read before you jump to insane conclusions.

[Rorschach]

I suppose the donation page is what the collection basket is to faith healing.

[Sean]

kinda like dementia asking for donations not so long ago.

[6000]

spend money?

go read before you jump to insane conclusions.

I love how you take my "spend money" bit as being the insane part of the reply.
I think that's probably the only sane part of it.
However, I'll happily retract those two words.

Thus, my comment on this now reads:

Disgusting. The sad thing is that someone (usually someone desperate) will actually believe this stuff and die.

Is that better?

[Sean]

Well they going to die the conventional way so as I said "go read before you jump to insane conclusions."

[6000]

I'd love to see his rationale behind his 'Sodium Bicarbonate kills Candida' claim, let alone his 'Candida albicans causes all cancers' line and then his claim that he can reduce the size of tumours in a month. Amazing.

In short, I'd love to see a proper trial of his treatment versus conventional oncology treatments. Shame that he is unable to do that. Not his fault, I note.

I cannot even begin to imagine why he was struck off the medical roll in Italy. It's just bizarre.

[Sylvana]

Cancer caused by a fungus.
I love stuff like that, it alows me to look upon them and realise just how ignorant and stupid they really are. We know what cancer is. It is a damaged cell that reproduces endlessly while ignoring its normal activities. Hence tumours. Tumours contain aproximately (I say aproximately because the damage to the cell is in the DNA causing it to go haywire) the same DNA of the person who has the tumours because its thier own cells gone beserk.
Its dificult / impossible to treat because these cancer cells are living cells and integrated into the organs they are attached to. Hence treatments have to somehow work on targeting a living cancer cell that for all intensive purposes is exactly the same as the perfectly healthy cell right next to it without harming the healthy cell. Also, all cancer is different because of the differing origional cells, hence Lung cancer is different from liver cancer in just about every kind of way, and thus the treatments have to be different. There is no cancer cure all.
There is a reason why cancer has a noticable genetic component. Fungi are not genetic.

That said though. Given the poor success rate of current treatments, I say let him try. Have him go through all the normal medical test processes, and if it ends up working, why the hell not. Remember, cancer research is contiuous and intensive. With the poor success of treatment today, many cancer patients can choose to volenteer for cancer treatment trials, and help doctors to perhaps find a treatment that works.

I feel like I could rant about this all day, but I should stop.

[Sean]

so instead of being a dick you actually did some research.

[Diva]

When did dementia ask for donations?
And guys-can we please disagree in a civil way and not make use of name-calling?
Thank you

[metoo]

Sean, Syl's brother has terminal cancer! A bit of compassion, and less name calling I think.

Also, we know that 6000 is in the medical field so I dont think he needs to be doing any research.

Divs, remember the donate button of a few years ago????

[Sylar]

I think there are a few different issues here but I think that there must be a clear distinction between things like this and legitimate trial therapies.

You can't just go on the internet and tell everyone that you have cured cancer and that cancer is caused by fungus.

Hell perhaps you are correct and somehow all the thousands of doctors doing research on the topic are wrong but the point is that there are correct way to go about doing so and setting up a website is not one of them.

6000 is going to kill me for saying this but medicine is not an exact science, its growing and learning every day. Theories and treatments change by the day but its all backed up by research and learning.

[6000]

I fully agree with what you say, Sylar. If there was no research and no new ideas, there would never be any progress.

But yes, you have to back it up. And he can't. There is absolutely no evidence for a yeast infection being at the heart of every cancer.
Nor for yeasts being sensitive to mild changes in pH - which is what bicarb produces.

Sean - I used to grow and work with Candida sp. for 9 years. I don't think I need to look much further than Dr Spaghetti's - dare I say? - "insane" claims to make a judgement.

But thanks - once again you've reminded me why I'm rarely around on here.

[Cloudgazer]

But thanks - once again you've reminded me why I'm rarely around on here.

Damn.
Was hoping these posts signified the return of 6010.

Well, try not to be too scarce... some of us enjoy your acidic style.

[Sylar]

ye... I don't want anyone leaving.


Please remain in your seats for the entire flight.

[Llama Girl]

LG waves enthusiastically - 6K WE MISS YOU

Speaking as someone who sees sick people way too often trailing in and out the Oncology doors next to me - I think every single Physicist would give their heart and soul RATHER than iradiate someone if they thought it would do more good.

[Sylvana]

Speaking as someone who sees sick people way too often trailing in and out the Oncology doors next to me - I think every single Physicist would give their heart and soul RATHER than iradiate someone if they thought it would do more good.

Modern cancer treatment 101: Try and kill the cancer faster than the treatment kills the patient.
Having seen what radiology and chemo does to people. just about anything would be better. Not to mention how hard it must be to be a doctor in oncology and having so many of your patients die no matter how much you try and help them. It must be soul shattering.

[metoo]

Dont say that 6K. Please man, we have noticed your absence and I was really pleased to see you posting here again. Dont quit on all of us because you and Sean hate each other!

[Sean]

Sean, Syl's brother has terminal cancer! A bit of compassion, and less name calling I think.

Also, we know that 6000 is in the medical field so I dont think he needs to be doing any research.

Divs, remember the donate button of a few years ago????

Strangely the site mentions those in the field and there useless contribution to the subject at hand, it also mentions that 75% of those in the field will refuse the same treatment they offer (this info from outside sources).

I know he has cancer
and instead of offering doom and gloom I posted a link to something myself and others have found very fascinating on the subject.
My aunts husband with colon cancer and my grandfather died of throat cancer, besides that I have has several hours of friendly debate with gaeb on this site and feel I can also call him one of my friends (one of several I made here).

Of course some dick always has to jump to conclusions and act like a know it all instead of trying to have a decent debate so lets not discuss this.