[Diva]

Apparently some muslim group somewhere wants to stop non-Muslims from saying Allah. They didn't get their way and burnt down some churches.
Does anyone else know more?

[6000]

[font=georgia]Malaysia - been ongoing for well over a year - new challenge to the ruling has re-ignited the fire:

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2007/12/28/43479.html[/font]

[Diva]

But why?
I have heard Muslim people say Jesus over and over-using his name in vain, basically. If they stop it then maybe I'll reconsider not saying Allah.

[Sylar]

Jesus Christ !


I'll say what ever the fuck I want.

Heard on FB its now illigal to blaspheme in Ireland... WTF.

[6000]

Jesus Christ !


I'll say what ever the fuck I want.

Heard on FB its now illigal to blaspheme in Ireland... WTF.

[font=georgia]It is. Richard Dawkins is (unsurprisingly) unimpressed: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ire ... 43694.html

Malaysia situation escalates: http://www.timeslive.co.za/news/world/article253127.ece

This is all good. Pretty soon the UN are going to end all worldly troubles by simply banning religion.[/font]

[metoo]

The irish may not swear!!

Thats ridiculous!

No accent sounds better than the irish when they say fuck!

[Diva]

From 6k's first link-the term Allah was used to refer to God by Arabic-speaking Christians before Arabic-speaking Muslims existed,

Now isn't that interesting? Steal a word why don't you.
These Muslim organisations are Really going out of their way to make themselves unpopular!

[sleep]

Allah

[Cloudgazer]

Is it just me or is intolerance growing more everyday?

I thought the 21st century would be about understanding and bringing togather the world in a global village... seems like the opposite is happening.
Looks like we're gonna be revisiting the dark ages.

[Diva]

This might be incredibly biased but it seems the Muslim religion is behind most of the intolerance and strife experienced today.

[Cloudgazer]

This might be incredibly biased but it seems the Muslim religion is behind most of the intolerance and strife experienced today.

mmm, I'm not so sure.
I think the west is showing a lot of intolerance towards islam.

[Orange]

I'd also be quite intolerant of them if they start trying to blow me up on a regular basis...

[Sylvana]

Allah is the arabic word for God.
If you are christian and speak arabic, you will refer to jesus being allah.
as a result, the muslims actually have no grounds for this kind of action. They probably dont even understand the language of thier religion to be complaining about this. Its a word. Not only is it just a word, they are not even refering to the islamic god (even though its all the same god in judasim christanity and islam) Getting pissed off at the misuse of the name muhammed, I can margenally understand, but this is just rediculous.

In all fairness though, it seems like the firebomb attacks were done by a single person or a small group. I do not get the impression those actions were condoned by the 60% population of muslims.

As for who is intollenrant of who, I would take all sides. Not a single one is tollerant of the other, not even athiests.

[Cloudgazer]

As for who is intollenrant of who, I would take all sides. Not a single one is tollerant of the other, not even athiests.

LOL.
Especially the atheists actually.
I've found them to be very critical and harsh of people who believe - they get very righteous about it.

[sleep]

The treatment of the Muslim women in intolerable. Of course, this is their teaching according to their Koran, Quran, pick a spelling. And gays, well, who are we to judge right?

The radical extremists of the Muslims seem to drag the whole loving type religion down.

[Cloudgazer]

The radical extremists of the Muslims seem to drag the whole loving type religion down.

But isn't that the media?

Extremist christians or jews are not much better - granted they don't use bombs, but still...

[Llama Girl]

I think all things considered, it is Religious intolerance that drives most of the conflict.

the feeling that your faith/beliefs imposes more/greater rights than the beliefs of those around you.

Each and every faith I can think of promotes tolerance and understanding in some form.

I think enforcing your faith onto someone else (or the consequences of that faith), leave us poorer in our faith rather than deserving to be rewarded in our particular 'after life'/heaven.

[Sylar]

Agreed.

Extremists are the problem, I have never met a Muslim that had a problem with me refuring to Allah.

You even get extremest Atheists as spoken about above.

People need to chill the fuck out.

[Cloudgazer]

I think all things considered, it is Religious intolerance that drives most of the conflict.

the feeling that your faith/beliefs imposes more/greater rights than the beliefs of those around you.

Each and every faith I can think of promotes tolerance and understanding in some form.

I think enforcing your faith onto someone else (or the consequences of that faith), leave us poorer in our faith rather than deserving to be rewarded in our particular 'after life'/heaven.

Of course, there is a problem here.
The tolerance these religions speak of is actually 'barely tolerating' the others, or simply humouring them for the time being, cause it's inconvenient to do otherwise.
Yes, tolerance is all well and good, but eventually it always gonna come down to the same thing.
Who has got the one true god on their side?

Ultimately, there is gonna be some sort of conflict between the religions. It cannot be avoided.

[abingdon2]

WARNING: TOTAL SATIRICAL RANT WITH THE POTENTIAL TO INFLAME (To mods- delete should you want)

Actually, fuck allah.

And jesus. And ya-weh. And even jah and buddha, for crying out loud. In fact, add your petty, self-delusional deity to my fuck list while you're about it.

If you want to hobble on the crutch of religeon, do so. Enjoy your emotional solace, the abdication from personal responsibility, your need for a cheap and easily-entered social club, and your instant and ersatz reason-for-being that your construct provides you but that you couldn't be bothered to work out for yourself.

Enjoy your social cliques with your hoary norms and mores. Think of it as "book club" for Sundays (or Saturdays, if that turns your tassles). Use your church as your charity of choice. Moralise and sermonise and idolise yourself into a coma within the confines of your own space and amongst consenting adults.

I don't care.

And I don't wish to impose my world of a-theism on you. It would be coarse, rude and ultimately utterly meaningless. Unless you want to pick a religeous argument with me that has some intellectual backbone.

But do not have the temerity to attempt to impose your belief system on me. To paraphrase a hoary old sticker, "I don't swim in your toilet, so please don't piss in the pool of my life".

We have so entered the age of PC-ness that people who are essentially tolerant, well-mannered and well-meaning are now told what to think, how to behave and even what they should or shouldn't think, by less well-meaning people under the guise of religeon.

I honestly believe the time has come for people without religeon to become more militaristic, to stand up for their right not to have to be abused by religeous fanatics of any ilk. Wtf, if it were a door-to-door salesman with a vacuum cleaner you'd show him the gate. But if it's a brand of religeon we all should accord it some form of deference?!

Get out of my face. Get out of my space. And fuck your allah all the way to the end of my 5m garden path.